Comments on: Hamas Answers? http://www.davejustus.com/2006/01/31/hamas-answers/ None Sine Causa Thu, 08 Dec 2011 17:56:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Tovya http://www.davejustus.com/2006/01/31/hamas-answers/comment-page-1/#comment-2443 Tovya Wed, 01 Feb 2006 23:21:49 +0000 http://www.davejustus.com/2006/01/31/hamas-answers/#comment-2443 Gotcha, well your point is taken. My point had nothing to do with violence, but rather the historical time frame to ours and their claim. Our claim transends theirs by a few millenia. I don't even mind Arabs so long as they leave us alone. All in all, I respect them dearly, but I just don't respect their will to murder all of us (as Hamas charter brags will be our fate). Gotcha, well your point is taken.

My point had nothing to do with violence, but rather the historical time frame to ours and their claim. Our claim transends theirs by a few millenia.

I don’t even mind Arabs so long as they leave us alone. All in all, I respect them dearly, but I just don’t respect their will to murder all of us (as Hamas charter brags will be our fate).

]]> By: Greg http://www.davejustus.com/2006/01/31/hamas-answers/comment-page-1/#comment-2431 Greg Wed, 01 Feb 2006 09:30:55 +0000 http://www.davejustus.com/2006/01/31/hamas-answers/#comment-2431 Dave: What happens in P.A. controlled territory hasn't been Israel's responsibility since Oslo. Once again I can only hope and pray our neighbors to the East engage in a civil war that completely drains their ability to strike at us. Probligo: I hope I don't:) and I appreciate your civil position if not towards Israel, at least with regards to my opinions. As the old American maxim goes, we can agree to disagree and that, I believe, what democracy is all about. Dave: What happens in P.A. controlled territory hasn’t been Israel’s responsibility since Oslo. Once again I can only hope and pray our neighbors to the East engage in a civil war that completely drains their ability to strike at us.

Probligo: I hope I don’t:) and I appreciate your civil position if not towards Israel, at least with regards to my opinions. As the old American maxim goes, we can agree to disagree and that, I believe, what democracy is all about.

]]> By: Dave Justus http://www.davejustus.com/2006/01/31/hamas-answers/comment-page-1/#comment-2429 Dave Justus Wed, 01 Feb 2006 04:45:31 +0000 http://www.davejustus.com/2006/01/31/hamas-answers/#comment-2429 I believe that the claim of the Jewish people to Israel, if we want to dig into ancient history, is based upon the will of God and the fact that they conquered the territory with a bloody campaign. Extremely bloody if I recall my Bible. The Arabs claim is identical, except I believe their conquest was a bit less bloody. Probligo, perhaps the ability to kill is greater now. The actual killing was a lot greater then. Anyone who supports the early Hebrew tribes solution to controling the land of Israel is my foe. I will do anything I can to prevent such an outcome. Perhaps God approved of it, I can't say, but I certainly do not approve of slaughtering entire cities for plunder and to take their land. I believe that the claim of the Jewish people to Israel, if we want to dig into ancient history, is based upon the will of God and the fact that they conquered the territory with a bloody campaign. Extremely bloody if I recall my Bible.

The Arabs claim is identical, except I believe their conquest was a bit less bloody.

Probligo, perhaps the ability to kill is greater now. The actual killing was a lot greater then.

Anyone who supports the early Hebrew tribes solution to controling the land of Israel is my foe. I will do anything I can to prevent such an outcome. Perhaps God approved of it, I can’t say, but I certainly do not approve of slaughtering entire cities for plunder and to take their land.

]]> By: probligo http://www.davejustus.com/2006/01/31/hamas-answers/comment-page-1/#comment-2427 probligo Wed, 01 Feb 2006 03:26:07 +0000 http://www.davejustus.com/2006/01/31/hamas-answers/#comment-2427 Tovya, I was thinking more in understanding the nature of a short and brutal life, sweetie. Things were not a lot different back then as I understand your history. The only change to the present day perhaps has been the ability to kill more people at a greater distance. Tovya,

I was thinking more in understanding the nature of a short and brutal life, sweetie.

Things were not a lot different back then as I understand your history. The only change to the present day perhaps has been the ability to kill more people at a greater distance.

]]> By: Tovya http://www.davejustus.com/2006/01/31/hamas-answers/comment-page-1/#comment-2425 Tovya Wed, 01 Feb 2006 03:14:21 +0000 http://www.davejustus.com/2006/01/31/hamas-answers/#comment-2425 Understand what? That I might meet David HaMelech? I could wish for as much. Understand what? That I might meet David HaMelech? I could wish for as much.

]]> By: probligo http://www.davejustus.com/2006/01/31/hamas-answers/comment-page-1/#comment-2424 probligo Wed, 01 Feb 2006 02:59:54 +0000 http://www.davejustus.com/2006/01/31/hamas-answers/#comment-2424 Tovya, I just wish that there was a way that I could fulfil your wish for you - - and send you back those 4000 years, or 3000 years. Then perhaps you might understand... ________________________________ Greg, be sure that you might live to regret your wish. Tovya, I just wish that there was a way that I could fulfil your wish for you -

- and send you back those 4000 years, or 3000 years.

Then perhaps you might understand…

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Greg, be sure that you might live to regret your wish.

]]> By: Tovya http://www.davejustus.com/2006/01/31/hamas-answers/comment-page-1/#comment-2423 Tovya Wed, 01 Feb 2006 02:33:10 +0000 http://www.davejustus.com/2006/01/31/hamas-answers/#comment-2423 We occupy nothing. Israel was ours 2000 years before Islam was even a concept in the unborn Mohammed's mind. We occupy nothing. Israel was ours 2000 years before Islam was even a concept in the unborn Mohammed’s mind.

]]> By: Dave Justus http://www.davejustus.com/2006/01/31/hamas-answers/comment-page-1/#comment-2419 Dave Justus Tue, 31 Jan 2006 23:38:55 +0000 http://www.davejustus.com/2006/01/31/hamas-answers/#comment-2419 As long as Israel is the occupying power power it is her responsibility, both morally and legally, to protect the populace from violence. I would also posit that a nicer, more tolerant leadership who is willing to accept peace with Israel is unlikely to emerge from a Hamas vs. Fatah confrontation. Quite the opposite in fact. As long as Israel is the occupying power power it is her responsibility, both morally and legally, to protect the populace from violence.

I would also posit that a nicer, more tolerant leadership who is willing to accept peace with Israel is unlikely to emerge from a Hamas vs. Fatah confrontation. Quite the opposite in fact.

]]> By: Greg http://www.davejustus.com/2006/01/31/hamas-answers/comment-page-1/#comment-2418 Greg Tue, 31 Jan 2006 23:16:25 +0000 http://www.davejustus.com/2006/01/31/hamas-answers/#comment-2418 I hope and pray all hell breaks lose in the Palestinian Authority as Hamas and Fatah fighters kill each other off finishing some unfinished business we should have finished long ago! It would be suicidal for Israel to make further unconditional retreats right now. That would only serve to bolster Hamas support in the P.A. and the Arab world. I hope and pray all hell breaks lose in the Palestinian Authority as Hamas and Fatah fighters kill each other off finishing some unfinished business we should have finished long ago!

It would be suicidal for Israel to make further unconditional retreats right now. That would only serve to bolster Hamas support in the P.A. and the Arab world.

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